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  • stldude
    07-13 08:21 AM
    Guys ! ! ! ! AT this stage let's take all the help we get from any possible source. Although i agree that Murthy is trying to stab in to the fame/sucess in this fabulous effort by IV, but it's better to add on more Voices to this cause...

    The whole GC Seekercommunity knows that IV played a very big role in creating a public awareness and making people talk. Let's not bother commenting on Murthy's evil intentions...





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  • ukats02
    10-20 09:00 AM
    If you download and read Obama's immigration plan (PDF), it is more or less the same ( Vs MacCain's plan). Except for no mention in specific words about increasing the H1 #'s or GC #'s, the plan actually makes note of the hardships faced by legal immigrants. The problem is acknowledged and they accept that the legal immigrations system is broken, which to me, means that they will try to fix it.

    -Ukats.





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  • ramus
    07-02 06:50 AM
    It is just 7 a.m. too early to say anything..

    So far so good, hope we are on the same note rest of the week.





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  • funny
    09-11 11:38 AM
    http://seeker.dice.com/olc/thread.jspa?threadID=9965&start=0&tstart=0

    Lot of people are working hard to defeat this bill including Programmers guild. We need to act fast and aggressively. I think this postponment of the bill gave us another chance to lobby it strongly.



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  • ItIsNotFunny
    04-04 09:22 AM
    I think this Bill will die like 2006 SKIL bill.


    I don't think so. Here is my view:

    I believe GC issue is root cause of the problem. Because people can not get GC for 6-7 years, employers (body-shoppers in real words) wants only H1 holder as they will work as slaves with them for years due to GC. This encourages them only to take H1B holders and not GC holders or citizens on payroll.

    If government removes retrogression, immediately 80% of the body-shoppers (blood suckers in real words) have to close their shops and H1 quota will be available to all.

    Common sense is not common.





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  • BlueSunD
    03-07 07:28 PM
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  • rimzhim
    04-04 03:54 PM
    So, only "US-educated folks" are entitled for H1? Is that what you are saying? And only that is a principled stand and rest everything is falsehood?
    IEEE believes that ppl educated in the US should not be sent back and should actually stay here. I agree with that stance. After all, they want what is best for ppl born here and those who have been educated here. It is IEEE-USA :)





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  • acecupid
    07-13 11:09 AM
    Was she sleeping all this while. Why did it take her 2 weeks to respond to the events that occured ? Looks like everyone wants a piggy back ride.:D

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  • sanju_dba
    09-09 01:50 PM
    This is a big fantasy.

    EB3 is not going to get current in the next 4-5 years you said.

    Backlog posted by USCIS and DOS is a lot more than posted. Their data is not totally right.

    The only way EB3 India can be current if all Indians on H1B, EAD are deported by a law. Such law is likely in 4-5 years if outsourcing increase and anti-immigrants blame immigrants for their unemployment. Then EB3 I will get current. But there will be no EB3I to take advantage of it.

    I say we stop dreaming and do a rally in DC.

    I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf


    EB2 total pending 34325
    EB3 total pending 136325


    2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
    less eb2 " " 34325
    --------------------------------------------
    " " 51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
    2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
    less eb3 - 136325
    --------------------------------------------
    42636 ( eb3 pending left over from above )
    2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

    So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

    above math is based on
    inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
    assuming no new applicants applying.
    Hope I am correct! :)





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  • zen
    04-03 03:09 PM
    o.k. ..I will first tell the issues which are preventing me from doing what you say.
    whenever we/I come with ideas - some members come up with posts to attack and kill the idea. ( teli and sanju ..).

    everything seems to be tied to donations ..but do people even think before parting with their money ?(it is their money and there is a saying for such attitude). some say donate for lobbying ... how much does that cost ? how much is needed ? no info is provided.
    say we are raising 10K every month and say lobbying requires 500 K ...5 - 8 years will go just to reach that amount (by that time, some will say lobbying needs more money ) !!!



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  • hara_patta_for_rico
    07-10 08:12 AM
    It seems several persons are already discrediting the lawsuit and from the comments I have seen, it is apparent that some have not read the entire complaint.

    In order to understand how a civil lawsuit works one needs to understand that in a complaint, one makes no legal arguments, does not cite case or precedent law but only cites the simple facts. The other side can respond to the complaint and deny or accept the allegations in part or in whole. Many cases do not go to trial, they end up in settlements or are decided through summary judgement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_judgment) (for the plaintiff or the defendants) if the case has undisputable matters of facts and one of the parties petitions for it. Several processes also take place ie Discovery long before an actual trial. I recommend reading the following wikipedia entry to familiarize one at a high level with the processes and rules involved:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Rule_of_Civil_Procedure

    To get to the core legal arguments behind the case, one needs to read the counts (they are only stated and not argued/expounded on starting pg 13). Namely those are:

    COUNT I: VIOLATION OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) (constitutional rights issue)
    COUNT II: VIOLATION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Procedures_Act)
    COUNT III: DECLARATORY JUDGMENT ACT (http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title4/civ00036.htm)
    COUNT IV: EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE ACT (http://www.hhs.gov/dab/guidelines/eaja.html)
    COUNT V: PROMISSORY ESTOPPEL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promissory_estoppel#Promissory_estoppel)

    There are several laws cited above, its thus puzzling to see requests for one to cite the laws USCIS/DOS is accused of violating when its all there in the lawsuit. The plaintiff has the burden of proving the counts they have stated at the appropriate time and not in the complaint. One does not play all their cards in the initial complaint.

    Even more puzzling is the persistent fear that there would be retributory action from USCIS. Judges do not take kindly to such behavior and USCIS would have no chance defending itself on charges of retaliatory actions.


    Thank you for getting some sanity into the conversation....atleast some people are realising that actions, especially those perpetrated by Govt Agencies, are watched closely. They will be held accountable, whether one likes it or not . If the lawyers want to profit from all of this, let it be so, as long as the voice of a troubled community is heard in a court of law. That is just the first step....





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  • EB2IndianGC
    09-23 01:57 PM
    Thanks Abd. That was really quick. Our mail was received on Tuesday morning, and I have not seen any change as review yet. I will keep my fingers crossed for some quick action.



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  • abd
    09-17 11:20 AM
    Anyone received RFE letter? I've not received it yet.

    In my case only attorney received in 5 days of RFE. I never got copy.





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  • eb3_nepa
    07-05 01:37 PM
    1) You can VIEW the forums ONLY if you are a REGISTERED member (that part is FREE).
    2) You can POST replies to people's questions only if you are a REGISTERED member (again this part is FREE).
    3) HOWEVER, you can start a NEW Thread ONLY IF you are a PAID member (the minimum fee should be $10 - $20)



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  • vik123
    01-10 12:28 PM
    Some people are already doing our job.
    http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-26%20Renewed%20Push%20for%20H-1B%20Increase.txt





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  • HV000
    03-19 12:53 PM
    Question on AOS processing based on PD/RD - Currently, EB2 INDIA is Dec 03. Assuming May 08 VB goes to Jan 03 (EB2 INDIA) , will the EB2 INDIA AOS applications with Feb - Dec 03 PDs still get processed??

    Any chance of EB2 India moving forward to April 05 by October 2008??



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  • kumarc123
    03-12 10:41 AM
    To all those who are screaming and shouting about "IV collecting Donations and doing nothing", I am not a donor myself, but we have to understand that IV IS THE ONLY platform we (EB community) have. However shaky or small the platform is. It takes a different kind of person to doggedly keep at something as insipid and difficult and immigration relief for EB and to put up with all the brickbats that armchair immigration proponents and to be beneficiaries like us throw at the IV core.

    Pappu, I have put forth this idea many times, and will do so again, let IV be a members only forum, with a REASONABLE annual subscrition amount (say equal to themonthly cost of a decent cable/satellite subscription:-)..

    This will achieve the following:
    (1) Assured, stable fund collection for IV activities
    (2) Only genuine IV supporters will sign up.
    (3) To some extent, may be, will keep antis away (this is not assured, but may happen)

    ...Its Friday, so pickup a 6-pack, 12 pack or whatever pack on your way home, and relax...


    Are you really for real?

    When a company goes down who is the person to be qetioned? CEO

    I believe PapPu here is the main person leading?

    And are you serious about contributions? What has IV achieved lately?


    1 I called numerous senators
    2. I send letter to white house
    3. Sent faxes

    What was the result? Same old bull


    I agree with you on IV being the only organization, but what goos is the organization when it failed principles and objectives?

    IV needs to declare their
    1. Donations
    2. When are they meeting USCIS, I would like to contribute to those meetings.
    3. Where are all the rally's?

    IV Needs to revaluate its objectives, closed door bull wont work.





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  • alisa
    01-19 06:15 PM
    Thanks jungalee43...

    Bumping up this thread.
    BTW, this is the best we have got so far. If anyone can improve on this, please let me know. I will look into this in detail later. An online tool that shows a person how screwed up they are (or are not) due to retrogression should also be helpful.


    I had posted this statistics last year on IV. I had done good research to arrive at these figures. I hope the figures will open eyes of people who are bestowed with 'blissful ignorance'.

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  • good idea
    09-09 03:52 PM
    You know it takes serious $$$ to get anything moving.
    Please consider $50/month level.

    I would happily join this but would I have access to Immigration Voice accounts, so that I can find out where that money is spent? Or that option is only for founder members of Immigration Voice? Problem is not contribution, but awareness where that money will go.





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    diptam
    06-30 08:18 PM
    He is probably stressed out man ! Lets not fight within ourselves.

    Most of us wont get GC easily for 5-6 yrs even though our's is accepted
    July 2nd .... But at least we will get EAD & AP and work and travel freely
    with our choice of employers and clients. :)

    Lets take 1 step at a time - Now our goal is to get the EAD at least.

    Everybody knows this.. I didn't quite understand what you meant to convey. What I meant was that even if my I-485 is accepted(i did not say even if I get my GC)



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